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Postby JoeyP on Wed May 19, 2010 7:50 pm

So I'll post random rants graphs hands etc here, today i spewed some at first but won it all back, and I crushed yesterday so it's all good

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Just reviewed some hands and all very standard and boring stuff really. I think this hand illustrates a spot where a lot of people check the river b/c they think the K is a bad card for them because it makes it way less likely to get paid off when in reality people will often assume you either hit it or have nothing. I checked turn b/c a) this guy floats a ton, and b) can't really expect to get 3 streets of value so I'd rather induce a float on the turn and/or get value on the river if he checks which is what I did. I see a lot of tagfish check that river though in my shoes which is usually quite bad imo.

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BTN: $516.00
Hero (SB): $464.00
BB: $400.00
CO: $637.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is SB with Q :club: J :club:
1 fold, BTN raises to $12, Hero raises to $40, 1 fold, BTN calls $28

Flop: ($84.00) 4 :club: J :diamond: 4 :spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $48.00, BTN calls $48

Turn: ($180.00) 7 :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($180.00) K :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $122.00, BTN calls $122

Final Pot: $424.00
BTN shows 9 :diamond: 9 :spade:
Hero wins $422.00
(Rake: $2.00)



Oh and I played a step 4 on stars today, played terribly (the mistakes I made were marginal according to SNGWIZ but I know better in all cases but one so it pissed me off). I still managed to get a step 3 ticket out of it, then played well/ranwell and went 2/2 and have a step 5 now. But i'll prob just use it to play a $700 MTT qualifier this weekend instead, we'll see.
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Postby art_vandelay on Wed May 19, 2010 10:09 pm

so villain put you on aq or a pp lower than 99? I dont understand his call here at all tbh. In before thats because your a fish.
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Postby JoeyP on Wed May 19, 2010 10:24 pm

I'm not saying his call was necessarily good, but it's still a leveling game because people are rarely bluffing with my line but therefore i bluff with that line somewhat often and I think the way the board ran out some people might think that I might be bluffing more often trying to rep a K. But i'm likely to barrel most of my k's anyways so he must have thought that I don't have one that often but wouldn't bet jx or TT thinking i'm pretty polarized and bluff heavy...
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Postby doobie on Wed May 19, 2010 10:27 pm

why not bet turn?
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Postby JoeyP on Wed May 19, 2010 10:29 pm

mainly because he's floating a ton so I get value from those hands b/c he's obv betting the turn when checked to with his floats and two because i'm not getting 3 streets of value anyways
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Postby doobie on Wed May 19, 2010 10:32 pm

dont show his hand next time because that kinda fucks it up :lebron:
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Postby art_vandelay on Wed May 19, 2010 10:33 pm

YAYA SPOILER THAT SHIT
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Postby doobie on Wed May 19, 2010 10:33 pm

are you double barreling all of your air here since he floats so much?
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Postby JoeyP on Wed May 19, 2010 10:33 pm

ya true
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Postby art_vandelay on Wed May 19, 2010 10:33 pm

this seems like a goot blog though :excited:
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Postby JoeyP on Wed May 19, 2010 10:35 pm

doobie wrote:are you double barreling all of your air here since he floats so much?

yes vs a player that takes a lot of flops IP and floats a ton I think betting twice with air is mandatory... you are better off just c/f flop than betting flop c/f turn because you will just get assraped.
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Postby JoeyP on Wed May 19, 2010 10:36 pm

art_vandelay wrote:this seems like a goot blog though :excited:

:halo: :fluffle: :excited: :kitty:
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Postby DumbSN on Thu May 20, 2010 3:47 am

art_vandelay wrote:this seems like a goot blog though :excited:


Yeah. :pa:

But can you keep the pace? Dont sprint son it could be a marathon.
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Postby doobie on Thu May 20, 2010 8:53 am

people sprint marathons all the time

they are called africans
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Postby lil boozy on Thu May 20, 2010 11:25 am

Hand looks pretty standard imo.I know you have made some pretty big scores online from MTTs cause I think I have sweated like 3-4 (Its been a while) but iyo how good is your tourney game compared to cash?
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Postby JoeyP on Thu May 20, 2010 11:35 am

Yea i mean my results have been good, my ROI is at like 100% with a 200 average buy in or so but the sample is like 500 or 600 tournaments so not huge sample but not overly small either. I do certain things very well in MTT's and others I could def work on. Mainly I'm not as good with like 35bb's as the best MTT regs but early on I have a huge edge on almost everyone and I play 10-25bb's very well imo especially live.

I mainly play MTT's to get a break from the monotony of cash and for a chance at a big score. Live 10ks are like crack, they are so thrilling but also absolutely gut wrenching when things go bad.

There's obv a lot of variance in mtts and i'm down money this year but i don't play enough for that to be a big deal and i won like 60-70k in december from mtts so I absolutely cannot complain.
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Postby React1oN on Thu May 20, 2010 12:47 pm

what you said about river is obviously correct, but i bet turn nearly 100% unless the person floats a ridiculousss amount and bets turn (a lot of his potential floats are Khi/Ahi and could just check back turn).
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Postby JoeyP on Thu May 20, 2010 12:48 pm

what is your river plan if he calls your turn bet?
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Postby JoeyP on Thu May 20, 2010 12:49 pm

also are you talking hu or 6max because hu you basically have the nuts against a lot of people and can just bet bet shove
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Postby React1oN on Thu May 20, 2010 12:58 pm

meh actually you're prob right in CO vs btn because i was thinking we can 3street (standard at HUNL) but that doesnt rly work here when a decent% of his range is AJ (only 2 AJs, but he prob calls AJo btn vs CO no?) and hes obv not calling down w/ 88 etc unless hes a huge retard

so ya i guess check turn is good
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Postby JoeyP on Thu May 20, 2010 1:26 pm

i would fold AJo preflop against some, not vs me though and a lot of people pretty much never fold it including this guy, but ya if you bet bet shove and he calls you are almost never good here with qj which is why betting turn will lead to a lot of awkward river situations where you end up checking and hoping he checks back which kind of sucks imo
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Postby JoeyP on Thu May 20, 2010 3:43 pm

bought another step 4 today and went 1/1 so i have two step 5 tix, gonna keep one for steps and use the other for the $700 qualifier..
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Postby JoeyP on Thu May 20, 2010 3:44 pm

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Postby JoeyP on Thu May 20, 2010 3:45 pm

playing like absolute garbage in cash today though... -5bi... :( gonna go get a chzburger and play more later
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Postby React1oN on Thu May 20, 2010 3:47 pm

TAKE PICTURES OF THE FKIN CHEESEBURGER :clown:
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Postby JoeyP on Thu May 20, 2010 3:48 pm

no, a) not really gonna show you much, it looks like a fucking cheeseburger.. you gotta taste it to know and b) I took a bunch of pics on constitution day only to realize i can't find the chord to connect my camera to my computer so i can't upload it anyways
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Postby doobie on Thu May 20, 2010 4:08 pm

is it the best cheeseburger in the world
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Postby JoeyP on Thu May 20, 2010 4:25 pm

y
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Postby JoeyP on Thu May 20, 2010 4:26 pm

well not necessarily... it would def make my top 5 non gourmet burgers ever. prob top 3. i don't really like gourmet burgers either so personally yea top 3 ever
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Postby art_vandelay on Thu May 20, 2010 5:00 pm

you dont have a camera phone?
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Postby JoeyP on Thu May 20, 2010 5:01 pm

no, i lost my iphone and am waiting till i move back to the states to get another so right now i'm using this POS sony ericson that looks like it's from the 90's and my ex threw it against the wall so half of the front of it is missing
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Postby DumbSN on Thu May 20, 2010 5:22 pm

JoeyP wrote: only to realize i can't find the chord to connect my camera to my computer so i can't upload it anyways



you know that u prolly can use every usb cable for that. If u have a PS3, use the cable u use for refreshing the batteries in the controller.
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Postby JoeyP on Thu May 20, 2010 5:51 pm

u can, it's miniusb on one end usb on the other, i don't have a playstation though so i don't have one
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Postby Spamesky on Thu May 20, 2010 9:06 pm

im sure youre good at tournaments joey but 600 is def a overly small sample
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Postby Spamesky on Thu May 20, 2010 9:08 pm

a good sample is like 3000 imo
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Postby JoeyP on Thu May 20, 2010 9:40 pm

ya i never claimed it was
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Postby JoeyP on Thu May 20, 2010 9:43 pm

i don't remember what the exact number were that they told me but I ran it by some people who are good at stats and shit and with a very high confidence level my minimum ROI was pretty good considering the stakes
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Postby JoeyP on Thu May 20, 2010 10:40 pm

this is like the 3rd time today someone flopped a set vs my AA/KK so this felt good
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IPoker Network $400.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 706392
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CO: $449.00
BTN: $394.45
SB: $1230.90
Hero (BB): $635.40
UTG: $893.80

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BB with A :heart: A :club:
1 fold, CO raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero raises to $38, CO calls $26

Flop: ($78.00) 7 :heart: Q :heart: 6 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $46.00, CO raises to $100, Hero raises to $597.40, CO calls $311 all in

Turn: ($900.00) T :club: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($900.00) A :diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $900.00
CO shows 7 :diamond: 7 :club:
Hero wins $897.00
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Postby React1oN on Thu May 20, 2010 11:38 pm

the resucks are always so great in suck-resucks
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Postby JoeyP on Thu May 20, 2010 11:40 pm

didn't work the time before :(

IPoker Network $400.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 706452
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MP: $442.00
CO: $597.50
BTN: $394.00
Hero (SB): $400.00
BB: $548.00
UTG: $456.05

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is SB with K :spade: K :club:
UTG raises to $12, 1 fold, CO calls $12, 1 fold, Hero raises to $52, 2 folds, CO calls $40

Flop: ($120.00) 2 :diamond: 8 :diamond: 6 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $80.00, CO raises to $545.50, Hero calls $268 all in

Turn: ($816.00) K :diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($816.00) 6 :heart: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $816.00
CO shows 6 :club: 6 :spade:
CO wins $813.00
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Postby React1oN on Thu May 20, 2010 11:42 pm

:kitty: the re-resucks are always really sick
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Postby JoeyP on Thu May 20, 2010 11:53 pm

Poker really sucked today, lost a lot of coinflips, everyone flopped huge vs my overpairs and i played pretty bad the first hour or so.

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I had a couple river c/r bluff hands today both of which I thought were kind of cool b/c they both illustrate spots where river bluffs are not profitable but river c/r bluffs are... the second hand I obv have some showdown value but I don't think I can really call there.

This first one is vs a guy that literally just never ever folds to my 3bets preflop, he'll call J8s OOP, he'll call 47s whatever he has he'll just take a flop and auto call my cbet as well... kind of annoying when he's running hot but obv quite exploitable. He also never slowplays his draws or his monsters on the flop so his call is basically a float or a pair. On the turn I was gonna CRAI because he's full of shit often enough plus I have decent equity with the overs+FD and his betting range is so polarized.

When he checks the turn I think his range is capped to 1 pair hands maybe he's smart enough to check something that just picked up some decent equity b/c he doesn't want to get jammed on i'm not really sure about that. The river I can't really bet because he'll snap any pocket pair but I would also c/r the river for value with a ton of the hands that I would c/r the turn for value so I rep those pretty well and he's gonna have a pretty tough call with whatever he has...

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CO: $726.40
BTN: $151.00
SB: $1581.57
Hero (BB): $548.00
UTG: $517.60

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BB with Q :club: A :diamond:
UTG raises to $12, CO calls $12, 2 folds, Hero raises to $50, 1 fold, CO calls $38

Flop: ($114.00) 6 :spade: T :diamond: 4 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $67.00, CO calls $67

Turn: ($248.00) J :diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($248.00) 6 :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $156.00, Hero raises to $431, CO folds

Final Pot: $560.00
Hero wins $557.00
(Rake: $3.00)



The second one was vs a nitty tag, I think he's never checking the turn with 2 pair or better and when he bets the river it's Qx so often but rarely better. I was a little more hesitant because i rep very little but I could have AJ/A7 I guess that's really it but it's also really hard to put me on a bluff there and he so obviously has qx or nothing.

IPoker Network $400.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 706460
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BTN: $356.70
SB: $1346.50
BB: $714.10
Hero (UTG): $619.50
MP: $569.06
CO: $400.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is UTG with J :spade: K :club:
Hero raises to $14, MP calls $14, 1 fold, BTN calls $14, 2 folds

Flop: ($48.00) 7 :spade: J :heart: Q :club: (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $35.00, BTN folds, Hero calls $35

Turn: ($118.00) A :diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($118.00) 2 :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $70.00, Hero raises to $244, MP folds

Final Pot: $258.00
Hero wins $255.00
(Rake: $3.00)
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Postby React1oN on Thu May 20, 2010 11:57 pm

checking turn seems really bad unless u get to overbet and he calls really weak diamonds when u hit or something

hand2 sucks vs good handreaders (if hes some retarded nittag who b/fs anyway w/e i guess)
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Postby JoeyP on Fri May 21, 2010 12:02 am

most 18/15 nits aren't good handreaders ime, as for the first one i do think it's debatable, as a general rule i tend to c/r my draws and strong hands and barrel my air vs people who have a lot of floats and marginal hands when they call the flop but it might not be best idk
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Postby React1oN on Fri May 21, 2010 12:03 am

looking at the hand closer checking hand2 seems really really awful tbh, idk how you think hes going to bet any decent % of his hands at all. and a ton of hands will fold to a bet. checking just seems horrible
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Postby React1oN on Fri May 21, 2010 12:04 am

JoeyP wrote: as for the first one i do think it's debatable, as a general rule i tend to c/r my draws and strong hands and barrel my air vs people who have a lot of floats and marginal hands when they call the flop but it might not be best idk

none of this applies to this at all
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Postby JoeyP on Fri May 21, 2010 12:04 am

React1oN wrote:looking at the hand closer checking hand2 seems really really awful tbh, idk how you think hes going to bet any decent % of his hands at all. and a ton of hands will fold to a bet. checking just seems horrible


flop?
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Postby React1oN on Fri May 21, 2010 12:05 am

no turn, flop is clearly a bet OOP
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Postby JoeyP on Fri May 21, 2010 12:06 am

i think you keep saying hand one when you mean two and vice versa.
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Re: Random daily updates, hands, thoughts etc

Postby React1oN on Fri May 21, 2010 12:07 am

YOU PLAYED THE A :diamond: Q :club: HAND TERRIBLY
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